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The Tenth Commandment: Coveting vs. Thanksgiving

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At church this fall, the sermon series is on the Ten Commandments, specifically breaking down each commandment for a close look. Also, in one of the small groups I am in, we’re reading through Francis Schaeffer’s book “True Spirituality” this month. Thus, it seems very fitting that one of the main themes of the book ties right in to the Ten Commandments.

Specifically, in the opening chapter, Schaeffer points out that “[t]he climax of the Ten Commandments is the tenth commandment in Exodus 20:17… [t]he commandment not to covet is an entirely inward thing. Coveting is never an outward thing, from the very nature of the case. It is an intriguing factor that this is the last command that God gives us in the Ten Commandments and thus the hub of the whole matter… [W]e break this last commandment…before we break any of the others. Any time that we break one of the other commandments of God, it means that we have already broken this commandment in coveting.”

Why is this commandment so pivotal? Schaeffer wrote that “Coveting is the negative side of the positive commands, ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind… and love your neighbor as yourself.” The only way to not break this commandment is to find in Christ all that one needs. Anytime there’s something more that we think we need than what we already have – which then forms the impetus for breaking the other commandments – so that we turn to other “gods”, find satisfaction in things, take God’s name in vain, disregard the Lord’s day by justifying the “need” to work on that day, dishonor those in authority, boil in anger to the point of murdering in one’s heart or beyond, desire sexual relations outside the God-ordained design, take what belongs to another, tell lies, etc. – at the root is a covetous desire for something we believed we should have that we were not given.

The apostle James wrote, “What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you? You desire and do not have, so you murder. You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel. You do not have, because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions. You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.”

But what about legitimate desires? God does place within us desires for good things. How are we to know what is legitimate and what is covetous? Schaeffer describes two tests. The first is to ensure we love God enough to be contented. Another way to look at this is to consider John Piper’s statement that “God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in Him.”

Schaeffer wrote, “When I lack proper contentment, either I have forgotten that God is God, or I have ceased to be submissive to him. We are now speaking about a practical test to judge if we are coveting against God. A quiet disposition and a heart giving thanks at any given moment is the real test of the extent to which we love God at that moment. I would like to give some strong words to you from the Bible to remind us that this is God’s own standard for Christians: “But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.”

In Ephesians 5:20, we are commanded to “be filled with the Spirit, addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart, giving thanks always and for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ…”

Notice the word “everything.” It leaves no wiggle room for some things to not be thankful for. Whatever it is, the command is to be thankful. The alternative is the core of man’s rebellion against God: a lack of thankfulness and a desire for something that God didn’t provide. This was at core of the temptation in the Garden of Eden. And it’s at the core of the battles and struggles we face daily. How often do we effectively deny what we tell others we believe, by virtue of being Christians, when we don’t live with a thankful spirit. When instead of being grateful for what we have, we have to fight for something more, we are in effect denying Christ. We are making ourselves to be as gods. And then in that new I-centric paradigm, it’s not long until the other commandments become irrelevant too. In fact, Schaeffer points out the contrast to being thankful always and for everything, from Romans 1:21 – a passage describing the reprobate. “For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.” This is how serious it is to not be fully satisfied in God!

Schaeffer’s second test as to when proper desire becomes coveting is “that we should love men enough not to envy.” This envy isn’t just material possessions. It can even be spiritual gifts, Schaeffer points out. Any time any of us sees a gift, a talent, a station in life, etc. that another person has and then desires it to the point where we wouldn’t mind seeing that person slide a bit so that we can have some or all of what they have, the desire has become coveting. From this point, violation of the rest of the Ten Commandments is also near. Yet how pervasive this is! Schaeffer points out how even in areas where we are going toward a common goal, such as in the Kingdom of Christ, we often find some satisfaction in seeing “rivals” (such as in other denominations) taking a fall. When we see another person’s righteous works, we often try to then use our ability and will to try to get this righteous too (or else just shun that person as being “too good”). Even this is a form of coveting! And ultimately this inward coveting, as it is allowed to grow, manifests itself outwardly. Schaeffer notes, “If I were to be happy if he were to lose something, the next step in the external world is moving either subtly or more openly to cause him to have the loss.” Anytime we act in any other way than in love, it’s a sign of coveting.

If the commandment is this far-reaching, who can keep it?! No one. That is precisely how Paul discovered first-hand that no man can keep the Law. (Romans 7:7-8 – “For I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.” But sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me all kinds of covetousness. For apart from the law, sin lies dead.”) The only one who can keep the law fully is Christ. May we find all we need – for satisfaction, for completion, for righteousness — in Him this Thanksgiving season!

Being inviting and welcoming through withdrawal?

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Good excerpt. Read slowly and feel free to comment.

“When our souls are restless, when we are driven by thousands of different and often conflicting stimuli, when we are always ‘over there’ between people, ideas and the worries of this world, how can we possibly create the room and space where someone else can enter freely without feeling himself an unlawful intruder?

Paradoxically, by withdrawing into ourselves, not out of self-pity but rather out of humility, we create the space for another to be himself and to come to us on his own terms.

…Human withdrawal is a very painful and lonely process, because it forces us to face directly our own condition in all its beauty as well as misery. When are are not afraid to enter into our own center and to concentrate on the stirrings of our own soul, we come to know that being alive means being loved. This experience tells us that we can only love because we are born out of love, that we can only give because our life is a gift, and that we can only make others free because we are set free by Him whose heart is greater than ours. When we have found the anchor places for our lives in our own center, we can be free to let others enter into the space created for them and allow them to dance their own dance, sing their own song and speak their own language without fear. Then our presence is no longer threatening and demanding but inviting and liberating.”
-Henri J.M. Nouwen

Luther quote

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“We comfort the afflicted sinner in this manner; Brother you can never be perfect in this life, but you can be holy. He will say, ‘How can I be holy when I feel my sins?’ I answer, ‘You feel sin? That is a good sign. To realize that one is ill is a step and a very necessary step, toward recovery.’ ‘But how will I get rid of my sin?’ he will ask. I answer: See the heavenly Physician, Christ, who heals the broken-hearted. Do not consult the Quackdoctor, Reason. Believe in Christ and your sins will be pardoned. His righteousness will become your righteousness, and your sins will become His sins.” Martin Luther, Commentary on Galatians, 1538

Is America A Christian Nation?

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Is America an inherently Christian nation? Pay attention to commentary by a broad swath of evangelical writers and talk show hosts and one might be led to believe so. Much time and many words are spent attempting to demonstrate that America is more than just a nation founded on principles of religious freedom and Christian values; that it is actually inherently Christian in a corporate or collective sense. But which statements are based on fact, and which statements are based on wrongly grounded sentiment?

I. Influence vs. Inherency
First, contrary to what secular revisionist historians promote in the name of tolerance and political correctness, it is true that the European colonies on the east coast of North America in the 1500s and 1600s were founded for the purpose of religious freedom, or the freedom to worship without government dictation and oversight. Those who laid out the framework of the American government in the next century were also influenced by Biblical values, both as a result of actual faith (in the case of some) as well as common grace knowledge (in the case of others). Thus the case can be made that Christianity was a strong factor in the history of the United States. But today that’s not quite the story we hear from either side. On the conservative side, it seems that many are not content to simply acknowledge the influence God’s people have had on America but rather must proclaim an inherent Christian-ness of the nation. As believers in the sovereignty of God we must certainly acknowledge his direct involvement, as an active being and not some passive deistic force — but we also must remember to not neglect to distinguish between special grace and common grace, wherein special grace refers to God’s specific, active involvement with the elect and common grace refers to the blessings that are extended even to the unregenerate.

There is a significant difference between influence and inherency.  To say that the United States, at its beginnings, was influenced by Christianity would be a correct statement.  To say that the United States, from its beginnings, was inherently Christian would be a falsehood.

Expanding further on this thought, it’s evident that many of the blessings that we have had in this country have been a result of the good that the church has done in the society, as well as the sharing in those blessings by the unregenerate due to common grace. The statement can also be made that a great deal of the decline in values today has been due to the church retreating from culture and instead choosing to create and live in a sheltered, sub-cultural bubble that has no positive impact on society.

We can not, however, legitimately go to the extreme to say that the United States is or has been inherently Christian, or the more common (but synonymous) statement that America is a Christian nation. I believe that the evidence is sufficient to prove that statement false. While it would be a logical conclusion if we could say that America is a modern-day chosen nation, as some directly or indirectly contend, that is not a true statement. This designation may only be held by the church — the true spiritual Israel, the people of God.  The modern day nation of Israel, as well as the United States of America, do not hold any special status. It is the church, not any political state, which holds the designation of being God’s covenant people.
Although this view may sound preposterous to some, it nonetheless has taken a strong foothold in the western church in recent times. From dispensationalists who teach that the nation of Israel is the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy, to Christian Reconstructionists who teach that the United States was once inherently Christian, has fallen away, and must be restored, this “special nation” idea is alive and active across the spectrum of evangelicalism.

The tendency among those who hold to the inherency argument, which I will categorize within the realm of dominion theology, is to look at Scripture passages speaking of the Old Testament nation of Israel, as well as Old Testament uses of the word “nation”, and automatically and unequivocally apply them to America. The parallel that some draw is to say that America is a covenant people and a chosen nation that has more recently become reprobate, much like Israel during the time of the prophets, and must return to God to once again be blessed.

The necessary balance to this extreme is to again recognize the good that the church has done in culture and seek to again influence culture rather than hide from culture — and remember that this has been a factor over the history of America, and not any inherent Christian-ness of the nation itself.

II. Cultural Involvement

In the first chapter of Genesis we have record of God’s command to “fill the earth and subdue it…” In the New Testament we also have record of Jesus’ command to “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,teaching them to observe all that I commanded you.” These two commands form the basis of what many refer to as the cultural mandate. However, there are some disagreements over how to carry this out. The most common interpretation involves the obvious answer — global missions and evangelism — as well as a goal of bringing all things in life under the influence of the Kingdom of God. This means that whatever we do, we do for the Kingdom. Thus some callings are not “higher” or “lower” than others, but instead that each of us has a part in God’s work simply by effecting change in our respective spheres of influence.

Proponents of dominion theology, however, take it quite farther by interpreting this as a command to make the whole world — or at least one nation, presumably the United States — a Christian society with Christian laws, Christian rulers, and Christian behavior. Belief that America is inherently Christian is obviously a convenient first step.

A former director of Coral Ridge Ministries, a Reformed organization which — though opinions vary on this — seems to lean in the direction of dominionism, said the following:
“Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ — to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness. But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice. It is dominion we are after. Not just influence. It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time. It is dominion we are after. World conquest. That’s what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle for anything less… Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land — of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts, and governments for the Kingdom of Christ.”

This is one of the clearest examples of the intent, belief, and goals of dominion theology. One element, at least, is mostly in line with the Scriptural command — winning the world with the power of the Gospel is certainly part of what we are commanded to do, though it should be noted that in reality it is not us who are actually doing the winning but rather being instruments used in that winning.

So in contrast to this view, should we just stand back and let the nation continue to go deeper into moral decline? No, absolutely not — but involvement must only be with the proper perspective. Returning to some idealized Victorian lifestyle (such as the ideals of Vision Forum and other similar organizations) will not fix the cultural problems. Pretending that the nation was once corporately Christian will do nothing to bring about real change. Seizing control of a power-hungry political party, donkey or elephant, and using it while being used will only result in a deeper quagmire. The only thing that can bring about real change is transformed hearts. Not transformation through grassroots politics, not transformation through making sure every family practices homeschooling, not transformation by making sure fathers rule their families as prophets, priests, and kings — assuming the role of mediator between God and family, not transformation by denying women education or voting rights, not transformation by controlling the media, but transformation by God’s people working within the spheres of influence they have to glorify God and point others to him. We must never back down from promoting truth in areas where Scripture is clear. Though some advocate a message of tolerance in all areas, we are not wrong to recognize the truth of Scripture and hold to areas where right and wrong are clearly spelled out. Still, we must give grace to one another in areas where Scripture is unclear or not specific and two may reasonably disagree and both be in right conscience. Failure to do so would be nothing less than counterproductive, silencing the very message of grace that we as Christians ought to be taking to the world.

So should Christians become involved in the political arena? By all means, just as they are involved in any other occupation or area of interest. We must remember that all callings are equal, however, and a Christian politician is not better than a Christian teacher, a Christian electrician, a Christian programmer, etc. We must just do the best we can, to God’s glory, in the different spheres of influence we have.  For the one whose sphere of influence happens to be politics, there is nothing wrong with making our present home look a little more like our future home — as long as this is what we have in mind and not simply a little temporal satisfaction that our favorite party, whatever that is, rules this part of the world. If all of us were to go seize the political sphere and make it our own, would we not in some ways be guilty of the error of the Zealots and to the extreme, even be making Jesus out to be a liar when he said his kingdom is not of this world?  But instead we should all remember our role as ambassadors of a better kingdom, communicating the message of our King to those in the foreign land we’re in. If we start to think of the United States as “home” — by believing that it is actually a corporate people of God, even a reprobate corporate people, we’ll lose sight of our actual identity as citizens of an eternal kingdom by having replaced it with the short-lived glory of temporal, earthly nation.

III. Cautions and Closing Comments

In summary, we need to remember that while there can certainly be blessings for Christians (and non-Christians too by common grace) if we do influence culture in a way that better points to the truth of God’s word, we can all too easily see that as the end in itself and assume that God has to think more highly of us for doing so. If we adopt this attitude then we’re in effect saying that our work has earned our standing with God, rather than that our standing with God is due to his declaration of us as righteous in Christ.

Finally, it is important to point out that this distinctly America-centric form of Christianity is in effect saying to the rest of the world that our nation has a special claim to Christ’s kingdom that all others do not have. Christians in other nations can be made to feel as if they are second-class compared to their American counterparts, or that they need to “westernize” in order to really please God, or that they are being ignored while Americans focus near-sightedly on their own interests.

So in conclusion, dominion theology takes what God commanded and takes it to an extreme, going beyond the commandment and into an area that is unsafe and potentially dangerous. We must certainly engage the culture and effect change to God’s glory in the areas in which we have influence. We also must certainly take the Gospel to all the world and to all people. But we also must always remember our citizenship is in heaven first and foremost, and not on this earth. Our identity is shared with Christians across the world, and not just under the flag of the United States of America.

IV. Notes and Quotes
Treaty of Tripoli, 1796: “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

George Grant, Coral Ridge Ministries (Pro-dominionism): “Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ — to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness. But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice. It is dominion we are after. Not just influence. It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time. It is dominion we are after. World conquest. That’s what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish. We must win the world with the power of the Gospel. And we must never settle for anything less… Thus, Christian politics has as its primary intent the conquest of the land — of men, families, institutions, bureaucracies, courts, and governments for the Kingdom of Christ.”

Meredith Kline (Anti-dominionism): “One radical fault that undermines the whole Chalcedon position is the failure to recognize that the socio-geo-political sector of the Israelite kingdom of God was a part of the total system of kingdom typology established through the covenantal constitution given to Israel in the law of Moses – just as much so as was the cultic sector.”

http://www.covopc.org/Kline/Kline_on_Theonomy.html

Robert Bowman Jr. (Anti-dominionism): “[A]re Christians supposed to be taking dominion at all? Granted that there is some confusion among American Christians as to what taking dominion would mean, is there a sense in which this really is the mission of the church? A careful reading of the Bible indicates otherwise. Simply put, the Bible never commands Christians to take dominion. A search for such a mandate proves fruitless. The Bible never even hints that this is to be a responsibility of the church between Christ’s first and second comings.”

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0024a.html

Gary DeMar (Pro-dominionism): “All government requires a reference point. If God is to be pleased by men, the Bible must become the foundation of all their governments, including civil government. This means that Biblical law must be made the foundation of all righteous judgment in every government: personal (self government), ecclesiastical, familial, and civil.”

About page from The American Vision (Pro-dominionism – Christian Reconstructionist – Theonomist): “American Vision’s (AV’s) mission has been to Restore America to its Biblical Foundation—from Genesis to Revelation since 1978.”

You wouldn’t be so shocked by your own sin…

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First off, the Federal Vision class is under way. Week II is tomorrow. I’ve decided not to post the class notes here due to the material really being nothing new — compiled from various sources — and also not wanting to get into a heated online debate about it. (Especially considering that online is one of the primary venues FOR Federal Vision debates.)

Bible study was good tonight. We talked briefly about times when we do something — usually negative — and then afterward it surprises us because it “just really isn’t like me!” I can certainly relate… that probably happens every time I open my mouth without thinking. Which is far more often than it should be. If you’re reading this, keep that in mind. That aside, it would seem Abraham had to feel much the same way in Genesis 20… once again, after all he’d been through and how far he’d grown, again lying to a foreign king and saying Sarah was his sister.
And once again God extended grace even at a time when Abraham didn’t really deserve it.
So now the two quick points (no, these aren’t my own work… they’re by my pastor who leads the study)…
1. Never be surprised by your own depravity, for if you are, then you’re thinking too highly of yourself.
2. Always be surprised by God’s grace, for if you aren’t, then you’re thinking too low of your Lord.
Also, a good Steve Brown quote! “You wouldn’t be so shocked by your own sin, if you didn’t have such a high opinion of yourself.”
So true!

Great quote (excerpt)!

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Reprinted from http://ematthaei.blogspot.com/

“Today, again [as in Medieval religion], believers are looking for direct experiences or encounters with God. Mysticism abounds in contemporary evangelical spirituality. Songs about ‘reaching up and touching the hem of his garment’ have replaced the Christ-centered hymnody. In one ditty, worshipers are supposed to hear the brush of angels’ wings as evidence that ‘the presence of the Lord is in this place.’ This is the sort of thing Spielberg might direct! It has nothing to do with Christ or the cross or union with Christ. It’s all about my personal moment with the ‘naked God.’ I can well remember waiting in some worship contexts, for that moment, that spiritual ‘buzz’ for which I was searching, during the fourth or fifth chorus of ‘Alleluia.’ There is nothing about Christ in that chorus, just the repetition of the new password. It really is a dangerous shift, brothers and sisters, and we must protest that it is not the worship of God as he has come to us in Christ. Many today have made the Holy Spirit so central and the Christian life so central that Christ is no longer the only Mediator.”

–Michael Horton
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